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Mar 17, 2009

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Tom Armitage

One obvious reason to keep a monochrome logo: engraving.

I've had to prepare artwork for engraving onto glass/steel (ie: trophies), and having a properly hinted single-colour logo is an absolute must. Also: you never know when somebody (eg, someone whose competition you are sponsoring) will suddenly say "can we put your logo on the trophy"?

It's boring and niche, but it's the most obvious place where one-colour logos are, to my mind, essential.

Loïc

The Apple logo was in a rainbow version for a long while, and at the time it was said to be the most expensive ever.
All the colours were used almost everywhere:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/piratemode/2168582392/
But those were the '80s, you know, wealth had to be shown.

Anyway, it is true that nothing is b&w anymore these days, but the photocopy can be a killer for a colour logo.
And bills, letters, various kind of corporate documents are still photocopied in b&w.

So let's have coloured logos, but they shall not lose their soul when turned in black.

Mike Reed

Let's not. To the practical reasons already suggested, I'd add the importance of reversing out. One tends to think of b&w meaning a black logo on white, but white on black - or other colour - is probably more often required. And a logo that'll hold its own as black on white will probably also hold up when reversed out.

(I'm willing to bet the Tate logo has appeared white out of all manner of colours along the way.)

I'd also add an aesthetic reason: b&w logos, or the best logos in black and white form, just look so beautiful. (See your images.)

I think it's the purity. This is what makes b&w such a good test of an identity. Losing the colour forces the logo to lean more heavily on form, pattern, composition. If they're not up to snuff, it falls over. They should be up to snuff, or it's not a good enough mark.

Google is clearly a rubbish logo anyway. It looks horrible in colour, let alone b&w. Is it the biggest crap logo in the world now, I wonder?

David Airey

For me, the most important factor is your first point, Ben — it's good discipline.

A great idea shouldn't rely on colour, so for a designer to focus on shape and form is simply good practice.

(In my humble opinion.)

minxlj

Some people are colour blind, remember, so we always need to keep in mind the alternative view of any logo. Black and white should ALWAYS work - there will always at some point, be a requirement for it.

A client logo I just designed recently, who are entirely based online, has been requested for a charity sponsorship brochure - they only have the budget to print in black and white, so that is how the logo will be. Luckily, it works well because I always do one. It will be interesting to see how the other sponsors fare, actually. I'd hate to see b/w discontinued - it can make or break what you thought was a sturdy logo design...it's a good test :)

Abbas

It's the acid test. If a logo can work in black and white you're halfway to a solid mark.

I've worked with a number of clients where a B/W version of a logo hasn't even entered their mind, and thus the pro's have had to be laid out to them.

Andrew Sabatier

Black and white is not the issue, form is.

Black and white provides the means to express the essential form of a brandmark. It provides the highest contrast between figure and ground and is the most simple, clear and demanding version.

Even if the brandmark doesn't get used in black and white in application it is the strongest position from which to work to ensure the brandmark is properly resolved.

Clients may never require the black and white version directly but they should always ask for it.


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MatthewNotMatt

I have a few points FOR b+w aswell. Take Amazon as one of the examples, all of their packaging comes in plain cardboard boxes with a plain black version of their logo. Google have moved into the mobile world with the G1, they must want their 'lovely' branding all over it. My point is that for online companies to make serious money they have to be selling physical products which will need some form of offline branding.

To my mind it would be short-sighted of a digital company not to consider a b+w or single colour logo, what happens if a magazine or newspaper wanted to feature that company and use their logo.

For me I agree that logos should always work in black and white, simply because it is good practice, and it is still practical.

Ricky Irvine

I concur with reasons listed thus far.

Also, maybe we're instead at a point where we should be asking, Do we have to use color? B&w is no longer a technical issue with the internet, but an issue of meaning and aesthetic.

Glass

I think having a single color version of a logo still has merit (if not for trophies, but for ink stamps). The new variable these days for me at least is: how can this brand come across in a 16x16 favicon?

john cooepr

"I've never seen a single colour version of the Google logo"
so, doesn't mean it's a good logo, have you seen the Google logo on a dark background - it does happen and it's hideous,
why don't you see it as a single colour, because it would just look like type not a logo type

Andrew

I think there is also a cultural issue to consider. "black and white" in our culture means truthful, serious, has integrity etc. Is it a coincidence that newspaper circulations are falling at the same time they have moved to colour illustrations - in part is this because newspapers have lost their serious black and white identity?

AK

It's kinda like when DVDs replaced VHS and for a while people bought those god awful hermaphrodite VHS/DVD players that could deal with both.

I think we are in that very period with logos.

Antonio

I say it's like the seat belt: You'll never regret having it on, but you might regret it if you don't; It won't hurt to have a b+w logo, but it might if you need it and don't have it.

As well as everything that's been posted above…

Julian Saunders

Simply put, if you are working on producing high quality identities it is essential to produce a logo that works in B&W as one of your base requirements. You should never limit the application of your ident at concept stage as if/when the logo becomes successful there will need to be many versions to cater for an incredibly diverse range of applications, many of which are difficult to foresee or plan for. As examples of diversity, think of applying your logo to the turf at Twickenham, or on the sponsors board behind a football player interview, or on the hull of a Volvo Round The World yacht etc etc... If you are planning on success, plan on having a B&W logo as an essential.

SuperDave4eva

This is an easy question to answer in my book... you can never retire black and white logos!

The real truth is that it's essential for business logos to be versatile enough to be used in one color (not necessarily black mind you) if it were ever needed.

This isn't a debate at all... it is simply designers trying to find an excuse or justification for using transparencies, gradients. multiple color combinations and a myriad of other techniques that they are attempting to pass off as good logo design.

Well, I for one am I'm not buying it!

Christa Watson

I wanted a color logo but after everything, fell in love with the monochrome design of B&W... I have all of my stuff in 2 colors, but always fall back to the black design. I think it is essential in logo designs, not only for print costs and project purposes, but also for aesthetic reasons as well.

SteveM

I am inclined to feel that as long as the logo is good/well-designed, it's going to look fine or not cause problems in monochrome anyway. I guess that means prioritising simplicity and strength including making the main characteristic(s) of the logo comprised of recognisable shapes that relate in a way that can be demonstrated as making sense. Sorry that's a bit waffley.

So the question is not so much 'will it look good in b&w' but rather 'is it simple and strong enough for a variety of uses and display modes?'

Simon

I agree that black and white logos should not be retired, but it's hard not to feel the future bearing down. Hang around a few logo showcase sites long enough and you'll see how little respect even some designers have for the idea of creating in black and white.

Loïc

“Too much colour distracts the audience”
Jacques Tati

Richard

I think the reason most never see the single color logo of an online company is because that is typically reserved for internal use. This is a must and should never be retired. B+W will always be needed for letterheads, and the like for financial and administrative uses. You'd have to be daft to want to run four-color logos on all your in-house documents and memos that would be a ridiculous waste of money.

Max Gadney

I think the key point is that it is good discipline to have a clear logo - and a clear one will work in black and white.

To that I would add, it should mean something and be distinctive - too. God knows there enough meaningless marques all wearing the same clothes.

lauren

if we're going to retire the B&W logo, let's wait until 2012. the most garish and colour-full (non-mono) logo will be in full-force then, so we could just make 2012 the year of the colour logo. out with the dull and the classic, in with the neo-baroque colour barage. man.

Tom

God I saw a single color treatment of the Google identity this am and it was disgusting. The kerning looked all out of kilter and the LAYOUT ! Man, you should have seen the layout. It made me want to fucking die. It wasn't even THERE. I mean, it was REVERSED OUT. It was a logo created out of the image that was backing the ground. No doubt done by the chairman's niece or something - just out of art school.

Nathan McKinney

Yes we live in an internet sort of world, but many businesses still need to print things in order to run. With the current economy, there really is no excuse to run a small business's print bill up just because you are too lazy to design a one color version of a logo that looks professional.

Certain applications of logos (such as embroidery, or cheap silk-screening) require not only that you have a one color version of a logo, but also a flat one-color logo (no gray scale or gradient).

Besides, one color logos will stand out in an garish RGB world. Isn't one of the principles of design not to blend in?

I know the intent of this article was to look progressive and raise a good discussion, but I feel it misses some very important principles and counterpoints. Most good designers know how important a one color logo can be. If they are only working in the web arena, then I can see how they've missed the boat. New designers reading this article might take away the wrong learnings.

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